RP You’ve done this
show before back East, haven’t you?
LU Yes. Let me tell you how this
all happened. I was asked to be a part of what they call “The Great
American Song Book”. They do a “Jazz at Lincoln Center” every year with
several different artists and naturally, it’s incredible music, so I was
very happy to be asked.
I had not appeared in New York
other than when I was doing theatre, but I had not appeared doing concerts
or nightclubs in many, many years. I traveled everywhere else, but I had
not been in New York for a long time, so I thought “I really want to make
sure that this turns out to be something special”. So I asked the director
of Stormy Weather, Michael Bush, who is a dear friend of mine to work with
me and co-write it with me. So we put together a show.
RP What was the major theme of
the show?
LU It turned out that the things
that I was singing and talking about - - - is my life!
RP I read about that on the
internet. So would you consider this play autobiographical?
LU Yes! In many, many ways it is.
So we did it at the Allen Room and people just went wild over the show! We
were kind of stunned- We thought it was good but the response was really
absolutely amazing.
RP Having seen you perform, I
can’t imagine it not being amazing.
LU I also did it up in
Massachusetts recently and got the same response. I realized when we were
putting it together that there are a lot of things that people don’t know
about me. They know me from either the Broadways shows, or they know me
from Mitch Miller or they know me from Roots. But they didn’t know that I
had a career going as a child.
RP Where did you perform as a
child?
LU I did a lot of
television starting at 6 years old and I also worked at the Apollo at nine
years old. When we started putting the show together I began to remember
that I worked with all these incredible people and I said, “OMG, look who
I worked with!” and then I remembered this and then I remembered that, and
it just evolved so now the music is part of the story as well.
RP At the Apollo, I read that you
opened for Dinah Washington?
LU I worked with Dinah
Washington, I worked with Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, The Drifters.
RP At the time, did you have the
slightest inkling that you would be as great as they are?
LU No! (laughing) I loved to sing
and I was very excited that I was getting the opportunity. I played the
Apollo constantly as a child. But I had no clue what lay ahead. My first
television gig was working with Ethel Waters as the niece on one of the
episodes. Then I was doing shows like Milton Berle in the Show of Shows
and many others. Television was young then and there were a lot of
children’s shows and a lot of opportunities. When I look back I realize
that it was a great, great experience – and it was LIVE!
RP So had one shot and that was
it. No retakes! On the subject of “live”, how did you bring this show to
Pasadena?
LU The Pasadena Playhouse asked
me if I would come out there and do my show. So we’ve extended it because
when I did it here in New York I only had a certain amount of time that I
was allowed, and I never got to the Television Years. People would come up
to me after the show saying “We loved the show but you didn’t talk about
Mitch Miller – you didn’t mention the show!”
RP So this show covers more time?
LU At that time I didn’t have the
time allotment to be able to do that. Now that they have given use more
time, we have made it more of a theatrical presentation and we’ve included
the television years, because I enjoyed a successful career in television.
RP So there’s narrative and songs
in the show.
LU Yes, and it also has a lot of
humor. It’s not the kind of show where you sit there and yawn. I don’t
want people yawning. The stories are interesting, the music is great and
there a lot of funny things that happened to me in certain situations
which I tell the audience about. It’s a fun show and I enjoy doing it and
I also have fabulous musicians.
RP Well, let me tell you, if
you’re on stage, there’s no way anybody is ever going to yawn! No way! But
on another note, you had a very successful career when you were young, but
you did Stormy Weather last year playing Lena Horne, who had a terrible
time finding her rightful success because of the way America felt about
African Americans in those days. Did you ever experience that as a child
in show business?
LU Yes! Yes, when I was growing
up there were a lot of situations where I was held back from certain
things because I was Black. I remember I did a show when I was about seven
years old. It was a contest and every week I kept winning and the grand
prize was a car.
RP Even today that’s a terrific
prize.
LU So the sponsors decided that
they had already given the prize to a Black child that had been on the
show weeks before me and they didn’t want to do it again.
RP So how did they get around it?
LU They had an applause meter,
you remember? The ones where the dial went up to 100? Well they had
someone go underneath the meter and tie the dial so it wouldn’t reach 100
because they didn’t want to give me that car.
RP That’s terrible.
LU It was very hurtful at the
time, but at the same time, my parents didn’t drive - - -
RP So what would you do with a
car?
LU You know, (laughing). We lived
in a ghetto. What the heck were we going to do with a car?
RP That’s very funny!
LU Well, I got over that
eventually. But sure, there was a lot of racism when I first started
television.
RP Mitch Miller was quite a
taskmaster, wasn’t he?
LU You know what? He had a
reputation for that, but he and I got along great. I talk about him in my
show, and in fact, we wound up being neighbors for many, many years. We
kept in touch and I saw him up until about 6 months before he died. When I
was performing he would also come to see me whenever he could be there,
and I have to say, we got along great. I learned so much from him about
television and music and things like that, and we really got along. I know
he had some ups and downs with some singers, but I never had that problem
with him. But I have to tell you that Mitch Miller stood up for me when
even then in the 60’s there was still a lot of heat about having this
young Black girl in his show every week. We talk about that in my show – I
talk about my experience with Mitch and a lot it is funny and I give him
the credit he deserves. We did the Civil Rights in Sing Along With Mitch.
RP That’s great to know that.
Would you like to talk a little about “Roots”? I remember seeing that show
and it was absolutely electrifying for me..
LU It was electrifying for us
seeing the response that it got when it first aired. I was in Las Vegas at
the time rehearsing Guys and Dolls. I remember that the first night it
went on I had trouble getting room service and I thought – “this is weird
– it’s never happened before.” But I was in the third episode, and by then
I realized that if I wanted to eat - - - I better order early – “
RP Before Roots, right?
LU Because everybody was watching
Roots. That was the first time in all the times I had been in Las Vegas,
where the casino floor was empty! Everyone was in their room or somewhere
around the television watching this show.
RP It was quite an experience.
LU Ann Margret was appearing at
the Hilton, and she called me up and said, “Leslie, we’ve changed the time
of the show. We’re all watching Roots”. And all the shows had been
changed, and I had never heard of that in my life.
RP No kidding
LU It was quite amazing – quite
amazing. We were all stunned. We felt it was special but we had no idea it
would become the phenomenon that it did.
RP Was Roots your first major or
serious acting job?
LU Well, I had done some acting
things before in theatre, major theatres, but that was the first time I
had the opportunity to play a character on TV that had some depth – that
had something to say.
RP Kizzy had a lot to say.
LU Yes – a lot to say. And a lot
of people seemed a little shocked at the time - - - “…oh my God – she can
act too!” Well, I had been studying acting since I was 8 years old. I
studied with Stella Adler and I had done a lot of small things in acting
class, so it wasn’t like I was not prepared. So when this role came along
I just connected with this character, to the point where Alex Haley said
to me, “You know, I have pictures of all the people I’ve written about in
the book but there was never a picture of Kizzy. But I am so sure that she
would be you.” That was the best compliment anyone could have given me.
RP Yes absolutely. So we go from
Kizzy to Broadway and you have won a Tony, right?
LU I have a Tony,
RP You have an Emmy
LU I have an Emmy
RP So how come you don’t have an
Oscar.
LU I’ve never been able to get a
role that was Oscar worthy.
RP I’ll talk to somebody
LU I would love to have that.
(laughing) I’ve done a couple of films but they were not anything to talk
about.
RP How did you feel the moment
they announced at the ceremony, “The winner of the Tony is Leslie Uggams!”
LU SHOCKED!
RP Shocked?
LU Shocked! Because it was my
first Broadway role. That was another character where just like, Kizzy, I
connected with the character. It was like I was born to play that
particular role. This is interesting because Lena (Horne) and I have been
connected in many ways – like six degrees of separation. Because
originally, the role of Georgina in Hallelujah Babies, for which I won the
Tony, was written for her. She turned it down.
RP That’s right she turned it
down.
LU But we’ve been connected on
and off through my life.
RP So how are you preparing for
this show that’s coming up?
LU Well, we’re rehearsing very
hard. We’re putting the television years in, as I said. We’re very excited
about that phase, and we’ve added extra songs. Besides I used to live in
California so this is like coming back to my second home. I love playing
at the Pasadena Playhouse and working with Sheldon.
RP Everyone I interview who has
worked at the Pasadena says the same thing – “Sheldon is a great guy to
work with”
LU Oh, he is. He directed me in
another show – Blues in the Night and this will be my third time here. I
first worked with him when I took over Blue when Phylicia Rashad was doing that
show. Then I did Stormy Weather and now this new show, Uptown Downtown.
RP So in closing, is there
anything that you would like to include that you would like people to
remember?
LU Well, the fact that I’ve had
an amazing life. I hope they enjoy the stories where I tell about things
that most people had no idea had happened and now with this thing called
the internet I’m getting more friends than ever who come in to see me.
RP Well, I’m looking forward to
your stories although for me, if you just stood there even if you didn’t
say anything, I would be awestruck. Thanks for your time and I’ll see you
opening night.
LU Thank you, and don’t forget to
come and say hello.
So our interview with Leslie
Uggams ended and once again I found what has been evident over the years
when I have had the privilege of talking with famous and important people.
The greater the talent the more down to earth the person is and the more
approachable they seem to be. Leslie Uggams is undoubtedly one of the
great talents of the last decades and her 53 years in show business have
made her aware that the greatest privilege an artist can have is to
connect with the people who come to hear and see them perform. It can be
truly said that Leslie Uggams is a master performer, a master communicator
and one of the nicest people you can ever talk to.
Uptown – Downtown opens at the Pasadena Playhouse
on Friday November 19, 2010.
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