RP When I saw your first one woman show a few years back, did you
say you were born in Italy?
DM I was born in Canada in a small little town. My parents emigrated
from Italy and they never became Canadian citizens until much later,
because the plan was that they were going to come to Canada – stay there
for a few years, maybe five, and then go back to Italy.
RP But did they ever go back?
DM No – because – life takes over!
RP So you grew up in Canada?
DM I ended up growing completely Italian. My first language was
Italian until I went to kindergarten and we spoke Italian in the
household. We were one of those Italian families where we were forced to
be Italian.
RP That must have been interesting growing up.
DM My mother’s sister, who also emigrated around the same time, and
her husband decided that their family would grow up Canadian (they said
American) and they were supposed to speak English at home. So we had a
situation where my father said, “We’re Italian and we are going to speak
Italian”. However, my uncle said, “We are in America – we’re speaking
American!”
RP Did that bring about any family problems?
DM Well, as it turned out my sister, my brother and I are very
Italian. We speak Italian, we grew up watching Italian television,
listening to Italian music – everything we did was Italian, even though we
were in Canada. My cousins on the other hand – they can’t really speak
Italian.
RP So now do you consider yourself a Canadian Italian? An American
or an Italian?
DM I’m like the moose in the play – I’m completely displaced!
(laughing) I don’t know what I am! It’s funny you should ask this
question because the other day I was reflecting on this. Since the show
started I’ve been invited to different events to speak so I went to the
Italian Cultural Institute where almost everybody there is from Italy.
When I’m there I’m Italian because I’ve lived in Italy, worked in Italy, I
speak fluent Italian, I have an Italian passport I feel like I’m those
people – but then I think – “I’m really not! I have another tier to me –
I’m from Canada!”
RP You feel a tug of your heredity pulling at you?
DM Well, then I go to the Sons of Italy, who also invited me to speak
and a lot of them are coming to the show. Most of them are Italian
Americans from New York and are five generations removed from Italy. So
when I’m there I think, “They’re Italian – and I’m Italian, but I’m not
like these people!” Then when I’m in Canada I think, “I’m really not that
Canadian – I’m Italian- but then when I’m in LA if I’m around Canadians, I
think – “Oh, it feels so comfortable to be among Canadians! They
understand me!” So I have to ask WHAT AM I!
RP
That’s quite a dilemma!”
DM Then I’ll be in Italy and I’ll feel so Italian, and I’ll go to my
mother’s village but when I look around I think – “I’m really not
Italian!”, because everybody is so different there. One of the things
about the show with the metaphor of the moose representing displaced
people is really about how I feel and how I’ve always felt growing up.
RP How did you get the idea to write the play about a moose being on
the loose?
DM The way this whole thing started was one day I called my mother,
and we were talking about some natural disaster that had just taken place
– I think it was the fires in Malibu – it was something bad and my mother
said, “We’re lucky here. We don’t have those kind of fires. We have a
lot of snow and rain and the worst that happens is that a moose gets loose
and wanders into the city” I thought she was kidding, but then she told
me about the Polish lady who lived a few doors down and the moose got
stuck in her husband’s trailer. It’s one of those camper trailers that
attach to the back of the truck and the moose was stuck in there and the
authorities had to close down the neighborhood. I got off the phone with
my mother and thought to myself – “That poor moose must have been scared
to death! He didn’t know if the were going to shoot him or what, and he
had nowhere to run! But at the same time, he’s really in his element –
it’s like where I come from. It’s a city but a hundred years ago it was a
wilderness and first nation people. That’s all it was – just wilderness
and the aboriginals. It was the rivers, it was the tepees – that’s what
was there until the fur trade came along and there were moose running
around in that area. If fact, the area where I come from had only a few
homes and there were trees everywhere. It was considered “the bush” when
we moved there, but now it’s a residential neighborhood.
RP So things have changed a lot since you lived there?
DM There’s still a lot of bushes right across the street. I keep
thinking about the poor animals – we keep pushing them and pushing them.
There was a beaver damn across the street! A beaver dam! But then they
got rid of the beaver dam and they killed the animals because they were
wreaking havoc on the neighborhood. Then they wonder why the bears come
in and why the moose wanders around. Poor animals! They have nowhere to
go for food, no wonder they come in! So when the moose came everybody was
saying he was in the city –that he was in the wrong place. These people
are from Calabria- they shouldn’t even be living there! They’re out of
place! I myself was out place and out of my element growing up there and
I think of all the people who feel like that – it’s not just the Italians
or the Mexicans.
RP I think that anybody who is living someplace other than their
native home feels out of place. How long did it take to write the show
after your mother told you about the moose?
DM That was quite a few years ago and I jotted it down more like a 20
minute pitch for a pilot. There was someone at CBC in Canada who said –
“Oh, this is very racist!”
RP What did they say was racist about it?
DM
It was and English lady who was at CBC, because you might know that
Toronto was once called the “City of York”. It was very English, until
all the Italians and everybody else started coming there. Anyway, this
lady said to me, “It’s very racist the way all these Italian people
speak!” I thought that obviously this woman had missed the point. I’m
Italian and I’m not going to write anything that makes fun of anybody.
This is the way these people I knew speak. If you live in downtown
Toronto you might be in denial, but if you go to the rest of Canada,
especially old cities around the major metropolitan areas, you will see
that they are full of immigrants who don’t speak English. They are all
first generation!
RP Much like it is here in California with the Mexicans.
DM I thought that was kind of strange at the time. But then I got
really busy and put the idea of the moose aside and I worked on other
things. I worked on my voice-overs, I worked on my writings, I did other
shows but a little less than two years ago I decided it was too good an
idea to let go. I put it up and brought it in to Theatre West for a
reading and everybody said- “This is a play! – There’s a story here. This
is a full length play.” So I started developing it and when I put it up a
year ago it was more or less what it is today. I restructured it to make
so elements come in sooner, but it’s really in the last six months that we
were doing the table reads and fleshing it out and working on it and now
it’s up on stage!
RP Do you have another project coming up in the near future?
DM I actually do. I have a one woman show that is about my
grandmother’s last name. I actually have all the elements and it’s been
sitting there but now I’m working on it.
RP A play about a last name?
DM Yes – my grandmother’s last name was M – A – R – A – N – O and my
dad’s last name is Morrone. Her last name was Marano and the maranos were
the Jews that fled Spain during the Inquisition. The whole village where
my grandmother was from had the name Marano. So my grandmother’s name was
Marano – my grandfather’s last name was Marano – a lot of Maranos married
and it was many years later that I learned that “marano” meant “swine”
which is what they called the Jews that stayed in Portugal during the
Inquisition.
RP Yes – it was definitely a derogatory word to identify them.
DM I started doing more research and learned that a lot of the
customs I grew up with in my house were ancient Jewish traditions.
RP Really? Like what?
DM Well, like not doing anything on Friday night.
RP Like the Sabbath?
DM We grew up where on Friday night you couldn’t do anything. My
grandmother never left the house on Friday night – in Canada after she
emigrated there! And my Zia, who is in Canada is the same. When I ask
her, “Zia, do you remember why nothing happens of Friday night? Why no
one can get married or do anything?” she says, “Oh No No. Nobody can do
anything. It’s very quiet, very somber – everyone stays home of Friday
night.” And they had their weddings on Sundays. They had a custom where
the bride and groom had to stay in for seven days after the wedding
I
started writing this monologue about my uterus – about the uterus not
being a religion, because people talk about conversion. I started writing
it years ago and thought – “this is going to be something and I started
typing in the uterus not having a religion and how do you convert a
uterus? So I put it all together and I came up with this show which I’d
like to get out. And I have a play at Theatre West with six characters
that I’d like to do and maybe get that out at one of the next festivals to
see where it’s going. I’m always doing something and coming up with
something and working all these crazy ideas.
RP
But they seem to pay off, apparently.
DM I try not to do anything just for the sake of getting a laugh. I
won’t put up something on the stage unless I’m emotionally invested –
unless it means something to me.
RP I see where Peter Flood directed your show and he also directed
you in “The Italian in Me”. You have a long history of collaboration.
DM I met Peter in an acting class when I first came to Los Angeles.
Peter was my up and acting coach and he’s always about getting truth out
in acting. He is not into shtick – and I’m not really into that either –
I’m more a reality person. So when I did the show The Italian In Me
I liked what we did and that’s why I asked him to do this show now. I
wanted to keep it simple and I didn’t want the actors to get all
complicated. I had one actress who was really shtick-ee but she’s
not in the show anymore.
RP How did you get together with Theatre West?
DM I belonged to another company where Peter Flood was the
moderator. There was a woman there in the group with several writers and
each would read his or her piece and I read something I wrote about a
woman who has a meeting with Alfred Hitchcock. I’ve never done anything
with it, but it could be part of a series or something. This woman came
up to me and said that I should do a one woman show. She said she liked
my work and I thanked her, but then she also said she would like me to
read something she was working on at Theatre West. She said she really
wanted me to be in her play, so I thought I was going to Theatre West to
work with the actors but then I found they had this great writers’ group,
so I asked to be in that group and that’s when I started to bring all my
stuff to them. I still do.
RP So how soon do you think when we see you in a new production?
DM I’m hoping – really hoping that I can do something by December, it
won’t be a full blown production – more like maybe three shows. I could
be the play that I’m working on with the six characters or maybe it will
be that one-woman show I mentioned. Theatre West is doing a Christmas
show two weeks of December and they mentioned that they’d like me to put
something up, so it might be a Friday – Saturday – Sunday matinee. It
won’t be a finished production but it will be something to push me into my
next project.
RP Sounds like it will be a fun thing. Do you have any thoughts on
the current production?
DM I have a great cast – We got so lucky! You know the actress who
plays the lead Maria, Connie Mellors? She stepped in literally at the
last minute because our original lead became very ill at 5:30 p.m. on
opening night and Connie was at the dog park walking her dog. She had
never seen the show – she had never read the play and someone suggested
that she come in on Thursday night, the night before the opening because
our lead actress was still not feeling well. However, she said she would
just rest a day or so and would return on opening night. Connie was just
walking her dog on Friday when the lead actress collapsed on stage just
before the show. They called Connie, she came in, got into makeup, they
did her hair and the show opened with her doing the part script in hand –
she didn’t even know the blocking for the show. She performed opening
weekend with the script in had and got incredible reviews.
RP When I saw the show it seemed she had been doing it forever.
DM I’m so happy you came this week because this week was the second
week she was off script. I was a bit worried because just five days after
memorizing the play the timing is going to be off a little bit.
RM
I think she did a great job!
DM Oh she did! She’s a pro – she looks just right and she’s perfect
for the part. I think it’s my ancestors – the Italians helping me.
RP Someone is looking over you?
DM I really believe that. I think it’s the angels - my grandmother
and my grandfather and all that their hard work, and they wanted to make
sure that I wasn’t going to put just anybody into the role. That’s how
Connie Mellors came along – and to make it even better I found out she’s
Sicilian.
RP You think it’s fate stepping in to help?
DM I thought Connie was Jewish because I remember seeing her name in
a play last year about a Jewish social activist. So I asked her and she
said her grandfather was Sicilian, so it must be the dead relatives up
there helping me.
RP Well, if that’s the case they are doing a good job. Thanks for
taking the time to talk about you and your work and I’m sure that the
moose will continue to be a big hit.
DM Thank you for coming to see the show, and I know that you can
relate to it – you can see that it’s not just about Italians – it’s about
every family and how they deal with each other.
RP Yes it is. Thanks again, and I look forward to your next show.
So
we closed the interview with Dina Morrone – an interview that took many
side trips which we did not include here, but Dina touched on theatre in
Canada and how the people are supportive of even the smallest shows. She
mentioned how people seem to devour the printed word in newspapers in
Canada, as opposed to the more hyper-driven business here where casting
directors, PR people and others in the arts are more anxious to read
on-line interviews and click to open links than to actually find and
search for articles in the print media. Dina is blessed with a high
energy level and a contagious enthusiasm for her work which comes across
even over the phone. The Moose on the Loose will play another two weeks
at Theatre West and you can find out more by visiting the website. You
can also learn more about Dina at
www.dinamorrone.com
MOOSE
ON THE LOOSE PLAYS THROUGH July 10, 2011 at Theatre West, 3333 Cahuenga Boulevard West,
Hollywood, CA 90068. Reservations at: 321-851-7977 or online at:
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